Pitchers and cockieness MUST SEE

[RioLindaPitcher]

I have had some really smart catchers and some really dumb ones. But there is usually a pretty consistent theme with this scenario - guys that shake off too much get lit up, and guys that listen look like superstars. Unless the catcher is just braindead and cant walk and chew gum.
I usually listen, although from time to time I will shake off if I'm blowing fastballs past guys, or if my curve is just disgusting that day. but it all comes together to a single goal. A swing and a miss.
It is a cooperative effort and a mutual goal, so the two should always work together< and a good pair will know what each other are thinking after some time.

[Zita Carno]

Exactly what I have been saying time and again---it has to be a cooperative effort, the pitcher and the catcher working together as a team. The catcher has to know the pitcher's stuff and what he can do with it, and there will be times---particular strategic situations---where the pitcher needs to call the pitches, such as when there's a runner on second. And both batterymates need to think along the same lines---be on the save wavelength, so to speak. When you have that you're going to get a lot of wins.
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[UndersizedRHP]

My catcher is calling the game until he puts down something I don't want to throw.

My freshman and sophomore year my coach called my games. If I wanted to shake him I was allowed to as long as i came back with a good reason for shaking.

My junior year my coach let me call my own games, and I called my own games in summer leagues. This lead to an increase in complete games and wins coincidentally.

Including wins over Penn State, and UMaryland
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[andrew.ra.]

usually i will just trust whatever the catcher puts down and trust that its right... only when i feel strongly one way do i shake him off.

I do this primarily b/c i know that i have a tendancy to over-analyze and over-think, and its too much for me to have to stress over pitch selection every pitch while also focusing on execution.

With men on base or to tough hitters i usually get more involved, but for the most part it just works better for me to trust the catcher, provided he's got a clue and we've agreed on a general game plan beforehand.

of course, if i don't like what the guy is doing, which usually means he's getting too cute calling too many breaking balls, i try to set him straight ... in the end its always a two way street... a catcher who doesn't have a feel for your approach can ruin your day.
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