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Hoysauce
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Kelvin I am sorry, haha. I throw my sinker and my 2 seam with the same release. My natural pronation and left handedness gives me excellent movement on my 2 seam but bringing my thumb up changes the pressure on the ball which allows the ball to dip.
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kelvinp
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| Kelvin I am sorry, haha. I throw my sinker and my 2 seam with the same release. My natural pronation and left handedness gives me excellent movement on my 2 seam but bringing my thumb up changes the pressure on the ball which allows the ball to dip. |
not contradicting
but with this said the grip or the way it is thrown can make the pitch
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Typically the 2seam fastball would be faster than the sinker. Even though they may be held the same (or different) they are different pitches because of what they do when coming to the plate. A 2seam tends to run while a sinker tends to dive or sink.
Different pitches if they have different movements. The way they are held does not determine what the pitch is. |
this is the best explaination of the two DIFFERENT pitches
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R.E.M.C.
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Hey guys, I'm a 16 y/o Pitcher from the Netherlands, and I'd like some thoughts on my splitter grip.
Thanks to a genetic abnormality my thumb can bend backwards, and as you can see I use that to hold my splitter.
Anyone got some ideas of how to use this little feat to throw other pitches? I'd be glad to hear some. |
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kelvinp
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bring that your thumb is like that you would lose velocity i think
a slow splitter's break is easy to pick up
but as long as the banded thumb doesnt effect your pitches in a bad way keep it like that
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K- Josh
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I have 5 pitches
but I cant get much speed on them I'm working on it but any tips to increase speed. And gain alittle control and how to aim it.
1. 4 seam Fastball 50-60mph
2. Curveball 40-50
3. Slider 45-55
4. Circle Change 40-55
5. 2 seam fastball 50-60
I'm 15 and 4 seam might be alittle faster maybe 5-8mph
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leftypitcher934
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first of all how old are you, guessing by your velocity i would say you are not old enough for a curveball let alone a slider
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kelvinp
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yeah
and your two seam shouldnt be as fast as your four
change is too fast to throw batters off
curve shouldnt be close to as fast as your fastball
have you been clocked by a radar gun
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K- Josh
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| When I throw I never have sholder pain its in my elbow why is that? |
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kelvinp
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that is good
nothing wrong with that
might not be throwing enough
or hard enough
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Defalco32
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bring that your thumb is like that you would lose velocity i think
a slow splitter's break is easy to pick up
but as long as the banded thumb doesnt effect your pitches in a bad way keep it like that |
Just wondering, but do you just post to annoy everyone else and rack up posts?
All you do is state something: i.e. a slow splitter's break is easy to pick up
And then, just in case you are wrong to cover your back you say :but as long as the banded thumb doesnt effect your pitches in a bad way keep it like that
Which basically contradicts itself because you are saying it's possibly useless if it's slow, but keep it that way because it might be good. I think you should lurk the forums, not be the first person to give advice. Let someone that actually knows something, give advice. |
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kelvinp
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bring that your thumb is like that you would lose velocity i think
a slow splitter's break is easy to pick up
but as long as the banded thumb doesnt effect your pitches in a bad way keep it like that |
is this not true
a slow splitters break is easy to pick up just like any other pitch
changing thumb position can make you lose velocity
there is nothing he can do about it(i think) so he has no choice but to keep it that way
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Defalco32
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bring that your thumb is like that you would lose velocity i think
a slow splitter's break is easy to pick up
but as long as the banded thumb doesnt effect your pitches in a bad way keep it like that |
is this not true
a slow splitters break is easy to pick up just like any other pitch
changing thumb position can make you lose velocity
there is nothing he can do about it(i think) so he has no choice but to keep it that way |
So then why do you even bother saying anything? You didn't suggest anything, just stated something most people know. |
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